Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Moving Forward
Date:	3/25/2020 1:04:47 PM (updated 3/25/2020 1:10:06 PM)

This should pis* off Trump. None of the stimulus will go to Trump's properties since he never divested himself. Looks like many of the changes put forward by the Dems are included. The Right put together the original without any input from the Dems. You can't blame the Dems for the short delay but that is Moscow Mitch's fault.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You are either lying or ill-informed..maybe both
Date:	3/25/2020 1:52:02 PM

Republicans and Democrats worked closely together on the original bill in various task forces in a bipartisan effort.  I refer you to Schumer's comments on Saturday where he said exactly that.  Then at the 11th hour Pelosi and Schumer, for what we now know from their comments on their caucus conference call, decided to hold up the bill to get all sorts of extraneous bovine excrement in there that had nothing to do with the purpose of the bill. 

And you are also lying or ill-informed about the new bill being substantially or even materially different from the original.  That is false.  Very, very few of the provisions in the Dems House bill made it into the one that was approved.  It is 98% similar to the bill that Senate Dems filibustered at the expense of the American people who they apaprently hold is such contempt that they could something so despicable and heartless.

Come on Goofy, you can do better than this......grow up and be a man and fight off your TDS.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	You are either lying or ill-informed..maybe both
Date:	3/25/2020 3:03:32 PM

He's right that Trump's company will not receive any of the benefits.  

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	You are either lying or ill-informed..maybe both
Date:	3/25/2020 3:47:45 PM

and Trump donates his annual salary to charities--much unlike Queen Nan

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	You are either lying or ill-informed..maybe both
Date:	3/25/2020 4:43:39 PM

Trump donates his salary to charity for the PR. Don't forget his Foundation was shut down cause he was benefiting from it. Nice guy you support.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	You are either lying or ill-informed..maybe both
Date:	3/25/2020 5:19:40 PM

Your hatred of T is unparalleled 

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Well FF, similar to what MM said about K. Loeffler
Date:	3/25/2020 6:21:15 PM (updated 3/25/2020 6:26:11 PM)

and her cash out.   Donald Trump giving $450,000 to charity is small potatoes for a man who is love to let us know he is ''very rich, I mean really very rich''.  OK so he gets a nice tax deduction for charitable contributions (of course that is only a guess because he still has not, as promised over and over in the campaign, released his tax returns) So, what's your take on his stiffing the American taxpayer for hundreds of million for trips to one or anopther of his ''clubs''?  I wish he would pay for the trips and take to salary!

BTW:  I am insulted you claim GF's hatred of Trump is unparalleled.  I hate him even more than GF and am extremely proud of it!!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Hey FF
Date:	3/25/2020 7:50:09 PM

"much unlike Queen Nan" You bit*h and moan about anything negative posted about Trump but do the same with Pelosi. You are one mixed up dude. But, I realize when it comes to Trump, the truth hurts because there is no defense for his thousands of lies.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Why Bash Trump
Date:	3/25/2020 8:49:13 PM

He does give his salary to charity.  Who cares why he does in his heart of hearts?  He does it and organizations get the benefit and that is good enough, isn't it.  

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Why Bash Trump
Date:	3/25/2020 9:11:16 PM

You are blind to the $100,000,000 he has spent playing golf. He has taken the country to the cleaners. Perfect example of government welfare. Give up $400,000 per year and steal $100,000,000 yet his supporters never comment about it.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You are either lying or ill-informed..maybe both
Date:	3/26/2020 8:09:04 AM

Not referring to that part.  I was very specific about which were his lies.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Why Bash Trump
Date:	3/26/2020 8:41:47 AM

Provide more details regarding your hundred millon dollars for golf claim.  How did you arrive at that number?  What are the components making it up?  Or did you just make it up?

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	To answer for GF...Forbes.com July 10, 2019
Date:	3/26/2020 8:53:28 AM (updated 3/26/2020 8:55:01 AM)

and I can give you lots more but would prefer you do your own research, the serendipitous rewards of researching a subject can be both therspeutic and instructive.  I wish Trump supporters would do more of it!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	HEY HODJA
Date:	3/26/2020 9:57:36 AM (updated 3/26/2020 10:30:47 AM)

FYI.....FROM FORBES

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	So what?
Date:	3/26/2020 10:06:56 AM

I don't care if he spends money on golf.  Anyone that sits in that Presidential chair deserves downtime.  I don't remember seeing you post numbers about Obama's relaxation expenses or Michelle's trips to the spa.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	If you have no problem fine
Date:	3/26/2020 10:14:07 AM (updated 3/26/2020 10:35:21 AM)

Does that justify your slobbering praise for him for the pittance he gives to charity?

No, I did not complain about Obama's leisure time nor do I recall defending him.  Now, since you were at least a tepid supporter of Obama, can you point out a post where you gave the same defense, you afford Trump, to his golfing excursions to counter the numerous hateful ranting ad infinitum complaints from the likes of WIX, MM et al?  You may very well have done so and I await your answer.

PS:  Trump so far 264 golf outing or approx once every 5 days....Obama 333 golf outings in 8 years or approx once every 9 days

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Point of information Mr H
Date:	3/26/2020 10:28:07 AM

GOLFING EXCURSIONS

Trump through Mar 8, 2020.......264 or approx once every 5 days

Obama during 8 years..............333 or approx once every 9 days

Mr. H, I am not sure whether you were among numerous posters on this forum who regularly whined and ranted about Obama's down time for 8 years but would not be surprised to discover you were.

It's called hypocrisy and it goes both ways...it applies to me ( I admit I am one) and it applies to you (you are one)! Do you admit it?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Joe Biden disease????
Date:	3/26/2020 10:32:53 AM

Why are you answering Hodja in reply to my post?  Are you OK?  Can you still tell the difference between your wife and sister?!?!?

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	OOPS. sorry to step on your toes GF
Date:	3/26/2020 10:37:56 AM

but, so what,  with this bunch the truth doesn't carry much weight.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	If you have no problem fine
Date:	3/26/2020 10:41:18 AM

Yours and Trumps, two different worlds Archie.  Trump, as a businessman, can get more business accomplished during one round of golf than you could in an entire year.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Joe Biden disease????
Date:	3/26/2020 10:49:07 AM

My wife and her late sister were often mistaken as twins. At least, I could tell the difference between my wife and her brother.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Point of information a dumbass
Date:	3/26/2020 10:53:39 AM

I haven't checked because I don't care, but I would bet that your 'statistics" are comparing apples to pine cones.  I bet the number used for Trump is total rounds played, where he might play more than one round in a weekend, whereas you god oblamer they just used total trips.  You are too dumb to know when you are being manipulated.  Check it out and find the REAL truth and get back to us but gods sake don't buy any bananas.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	He could tell...
Date:	3/26/2020 10:56:02 AM

..it just didn't really matter to him.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Joe Biden disease????
Date:	3/26/2020 11:53:40 AM

Very good.....now try to respond to Hodja by clicking on his post and hitting reply.  It works every time. 

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Perhaps, I don't play golf but l
Date:	3/26/2020 1:32:19 PM (updated 3/26/2020 1:40:54 PM)

live in the real world, unlike Trump.

I have never had to declare a business bankrupt, never had a lawsuit filed against me and never had something I started closed down by court order!

I think it would be great if we had a successful business man or woman as president.  Donald Trump is not a very ''successful'' business man by the usual definition of successful.  On the other hand he is a very successful con-man!  Thanks to money from his father he managed to establish his name as a brand in the 1980's and ever since he has made a living selling his name.  That is not what most people living with me in the real world consider business success.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Perhaps, I don't play golf but l
Date:	3/26/2020 6:05:13 PM

It's all about levels of risk taking Archie.  You (and I actually) have not exposed ourselves to his level of risk in a business sense.  

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Point of information Mr H
Date:	3/26/2020 9:15:17 PM

Frankly, you keep saying there were rants against Obama but I don't remember anything near your incessant TDS posts. Please give us some examples from MM, CRD, and other credible posters that might give at least a little credence to your claims. Don't include Wix because whoever he/she is it is difficult for anyone to give a whole lot of credibility to Wix posts. 

Maybe these virulent rants against Obama are a figment of your Trump deranged imagination.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Trump likes ''heros'' who don't get captured
Date:	3/27/2020 12:55:06 AM

I like business men who make wise enough decisions that don't have to declare bankruptcy and screw their creditors!

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	HEY HODJA
Date:	3/27/2020 9:41:40 AM

About what I figured.  If he happened to play golf when on a trip for any reason the author considers it a cost of playing golf.  The aricle is BS.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	With all due respect Mr H
Date:	3/27/2020 9:45:01 AM

you sure do have a selective memory.  I could go into the 2009-16 archives and find dozens it not hundreds of vitriolic hateful rants against againt "Oblammey, Oblamer. Moo-chelle, etc'' which had not only objections to his policies but were so obviously racially tinged it would mak a KKKer proud.  I could even find comments from you highly critical of my replies to some of them and my response to you questioning why you never were in any way critical of the much harsher comments to which was responding.  If you are so interested in seeing what the reality was and is you go back to the posts during those 8 years by not only MM , but Lifer, Buteye, Shortbus, Evinrude and half a dozen others including an especially hateful former poster called Water-watcher!  While you are at it look at a few of Hound's posts in support of Obama in those years to see how she has succumbed to the BS being shovelled by Trump!  I will not do the work for you Mr H but if you honestly care you will!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	With all due respect Mr H
Date:	3/27/2020 9:54:17 AM

hundreds from lots of different people over 8 years vs the thousands just from him in 3.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	HEY HODJA
Date:	3/27/2020 11:50:00 AM

The really funny part of this is that there was never any concern on the left for all the Obama vacations, taking separate planes, etc.  But more to the point, I always took the position that it was good for America for Obama to be on vacation as it was time away from screwing up the country.  

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Trump likes ''heros'' who don't get captured
Date:	3/27/2020 12:28:57 PM

Is this what you said when Obama allowed Solyndra to declare bankruptcy and screw their creditors, who happened to be the US TAXPAYERS to the tune of 500 mil?  Give me a break with your selective rightousness Archie.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	HEY HODJA
Date:	3/27/2020 3:18:27 PM

+1

Plus, someone with longer term memory can assist - seems like I recall lots of bitching about GW Bush traveos etc and at the time of Obama they were all saying well Bush took trips and you didnt complain so shut up....

seems like they just like to say shut up alot, or that is (demonrat) history and does not matter anymore.  but they will go back as far as they can to compain about a republican.