Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	The current narrative
Date:	6/11/2020 11:05:23 AM

I disagree with the current narrative about systemic racism and racism in general.  I've taken a public stand and been called a racist more times in the last few days, but it makes me laugh.  You know, we all view things through our own prism.  So if I believe everything bad that happens to me, because I happen to be black, is racism.  Yeah, I'm speeding while I am driving in my car, but because I am black, I decide that I was pulled over because I am black and the cop is obviously a racist.  The other day I was in Publix buying a sandwich.  The girl waiting on me is black.  She stops working on my sandwich when a black woman walks up to the hot food and waits on her.  Is it because I am white?  Or is it because she has to work two different stations and she's trying to wait on everyone?  

I feel like everything is being distorted right now, because of the narrative.  If I say "all lives matter", it must be because I am a racist.  But in truth, I do think all lives matter and that includes black lives.  I do believe that there are instances of racism, but not nearly to the extent that the black community thinks, but they can't see it because all of their lives they have been told that everyone is racist and against them.  I feel like I have helped black and white people equally, when I could do something positive.  When I was a boss, I had a group of 3 black women that worked administative jobs.  Their previous director had been black and got them out of the secretarial role and created upward mobility for them.  But ours was an office of all engineers.  There was no job that I could think up, that would overcome the fact that there were only two kinds of jobs - administrative and engineering and none of these ladies had engineering degrees.  So then, it must be because I am a racist that I can't create new jobs for them and promote them, or go to another manager in the agency and demand that they be promoted there.  Everything can be seen through a prism of racism and when you don't get what you want and you are black, then it must be racism.  

And now we should tear down every memorial of everyone that played a part of U.S. history because 13% of the population doesn't like it being there.  Did they even notice the monuments before someone told them that they should?  There is a beautiful monument of Robert E. Lee, once of the great generals, in Richmond.  It is a work of art - him sitting on his horse that marks the beginning of the avenue of monuments - but now it MUST come down.  Last night, another statue of Lee was torn down by thugs in Richmond.  They want the Army bases that were named for the great generals renamed - despite the fact that the Army still studies the Civil War - not because of slavery, but because of the war strategies by the great generals.  

This is all making me sad, because it feels like there is an invisible hand that is ripping apart our country, because 13% of the population views everything through a prism of racism.  

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	The current narrative
Date:	6/11/2020 12:07:03 PM

Funny considering earlier posts - Ill leave it at that.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Follow the money
Date:	6/11/2020 1:02:03 PM

Most of the unrest is coming from a very vocal and very small minority magnified by the media and it is all about power and money.  The media gets their clicks and their viewers so they make more money.  So they'll fixate on this for a while, BLM will get a big infusion of cash from guilty white liberals and woke corporations while doing nothing about the 99% of blacks killed violently by someone other than a police officer.  They'll live off that money for a while waiting for the next opportunity to rage and get their payola.  They've seen Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do this for years and they wanna get some for themselves.  And Antifa will cause rioting and looting so Soros will continue to pay them and deliver the pallets of bricks.  

Money and power.....and only power because it brings the money.  It's really pretty simple and has always been this way and will always be this way.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Follow the money
Date:	6/11/2020 1:58:23 PM

To be sure, I believe that about money and power.  But so many Black people believe that everything that happens to them is because of racism.  To be sure, if all of their "demands" were met - including renaming bases, taking down monuments, givng them all free healthcare, creating more quota and EEO programs, they woud still see through the prism of racism and nothing would change.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Follow the education too
Date:	6/11/2020 2:40:47 PM

Hound they view the world that way because they have been taught that all their lives in the indoctanation centers, or schools as you refer to them, have preached it to them since Kindergarden.  You never had a child in the sytem to see how bad it really is.  The liberals control Higher Ed and you can't teach in alabama without a teaching degree from one of their schools. You can hold a PhD in Mathematics but you can't teach algebra in an Alabama classroom.  Sad but true.  The unions control the teachers once accredited.  This whole smaller classroom thing is a racket.  It's not about better more individualized instruction.  Its about having to have more teachers to do the same amount of work which means more union members wich means more dues collected.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Follow the education too
Date:	6/11/2020 4:30:38 PM

Don't you have to have a teaching certiicate to teach anywhere?  I don't know.  My sister was getting her teaching certificate in NJ- then she did her student teaching and decided it wasn't for her afterall.  It's been many years since I was in school and I have never had any children in the system, so I don't really know.  My only impression has been that perhaps the teaching standards here weren't as high as in other places and that when changes to raise the standard were proposed, a lot of people shot them down.  

I know I have being listening to this narrative of racism most of my life, even though I grew up in the North.  I'm not denying that racism exists, but I think that after the civil rights movement, things did get better for people of color, but it didn't happen overnight.  I lived at work through the quota years and the EEO years and then everyone hated it because it wasn't netting the best qualified candidates and in some cases, the candidates were totally unqualiied and then were unhappy because they really couldn't even learn the job.  I've seen military people that were passed along because of some quota. I don't think that has anything to do with equality.  The opportunities are out there for black people but they are so busy blaming racism on anything that doesn't go their way they can't see them. 

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Follow the education too
Date:	6/11/2020 4:30:39 PM

Don't you have to have a teaching certiicate to teach anywhere?  I don't know.  My sister was getting her teaching certificate in NJ- then she did her student teaching and decided it wasn't for her afterall.  It's been many years since I was in school and I have never had any children in the system, so I don't really know.  My only impression has been that perhaps the teaching standards here weren't as high as in other places and that when changes to raise the standard were proposed, a lot of people shot them down.  

I know I have being listening to this narrative of racism most of my life, even though I grew up in the North.  I'm not denying that racism exists, but I think that after the civil rights movement, things did get better for people of color, but it didn't happen overnight.  I lived at work through the quota years and the EEO years and then everyone hated it because it wasn't netting the best qualified candidates and in some cases, the candidates were totally unqualiied and then were unhappy because they really couldn't even learn the job.  I've seen military people that were passed along because of some quota. I don't think that has anything to do with equality.  The opportunities are out there for black people but they are so busy blaming racism on anything that doesn't go their way they can't see them. 

Name:	PTClakefan -	Reply
Subject:	Follow the education too
Date:	6/11/2020 5:44:58 PM

"The liberals control Higher Ed and you can't teach in alabama without a teaching degree from one of their schools. You can hold a PhD in Mathematics but you can't teach algebra in an Alabama classroom."

Anyone can teach in a public school in Alabama (and anywhere in the U.S.) as long as they have graduated from an accredited college and have passed a standardized test (I believe it is called the Praxis) for the subject matter they propose to teach and can pass a background check.  They do not have to have a degree from an Alabama college.  As far as public education goes, most everyone has their opinion on it.  Many cannot afford private schools, and many do not have the skillset, motivation or desire for the home school option.  Most people go through public school and do just fine (me and my children included).  Ultimately no system is perfect, so we all need to make the best of what we have, as there is no utopia here on earth. 

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	There is a Utopia
Date:	6/11/2020 8:26:15 PM

It's called CHAZ and its located in dowtown Seattle.  

But if you look at those 'citizens of CHAZ' you see the results of decades of liberals in control of schools.  CHAZ is what you get.  They have witdrawn form the USA but are apparently accepting foriegn aide from the city of Seattle and other foreign entities.  They are collecting entry fees from those new arrivals that are showing up and demanding "protection money" from those businesses inside the walls they built around their country while demanding those around the USA be torn down.

Name:	PTClakefan -	Reply
Subject:	There is a Utopia
Date:	6/11/2020 9:18:13 PM

OK, so we get that you are not a big fan of public schools.  So, what alternative would you propose and how would you fund it?  No compulsory education?  That is one possibility, but that would probably put us behind the likes of Afghanastan in terms of prosperity.  Private schools probably work, but most working people can't afford to send their children to private schools and it is highly unlikely that the government will ever fund a private school alternative. That then leaves home schooling which is a good choice for some, but probably doesn't work for most folks.  

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Feel sorry for those who try to climb up......
Date:	6/11/2020 9:25:58 PM

As I have posted before, the true victims of all this far left liberal krap going on, are the blacks who have struggled, survived, educated themselves, and climbed up out of their surroundings to become successful citizens of America.  When the worthless hoards of dimokraps riot and loot, the opinions of American citizens push all blacks back down in the gutter, and that includes those AA’s who have earned the respect of their fellow man.  Yes, we all know and have friends that we continue to respect because we know them, but their interactions with bankers, employers, etc. will be damaged because of the actions of a few idiots.  The result is really difficult for me to stomach.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Feel sorry for those who try to climb up......
Date:	6/11/2020 9:42:32 PM

Yes, I have actually know some very fine people who happen to be black, that did go to college and end up in successful careers.  They live in the suburbs and their kids go to school and they have some of the strictest parents around.  Because they expect their children to do well.  I doubt any of them are out there protesting and demanding the police be defunded.  How about the black cops that are stuck between a rock and a hard place.  

I am very worried about our country.  A certain segment of blacks are bringing a lot of white to their knees to apologize for their whiteness.  And they, in turn, are ready to let the miniority blacks take over the dictate how things should be.  We have House Democrats out kneeling with kinte cloth stoles.  Joe Biden said today that Trump is going to "steal" the election which will guarentee more problems if he wins and Democrats have said he will have to be forcibly removed from the WH if he loses.  This is the new narrative.  Cops - bad; whites- bad; and black criminals are the heroes of the day.  Even the Black comedian Funny Maine has been charged with inciting a riot, telling blacks to tear down Confederate statues - like every time a white person looks at one they are thining Yea! Slavery!  Because that is what they are being told to think.  It woudn't surprise me to see them burn Montecello down.  Rip apart the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Monument because they owned slaves.  It's hard to say where this will stop and the media is feeding it like a bonfire.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Unfair To Knock All Public Education
Date:	6/11/2020 10:53:59 PM

Check this list before you attack public education in all states. I appreciate your concern living in Alabama.

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Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	There is a Utopia
Date:	6/12/2020 6:34:09 AM

Ok, we get it, you are a teacher.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Unfair To Knock All Public Education
Date:	6/12/2020 8:13:33 AM

I don't knock all public education.  The area I lived in VA had excellent public schools that routinely produced numerous National Merit Scholars.  One thing that I think helps is that you have a population of educated parents that are very involved in the public schools.  They held the schools to a standard.  

In NJ, my niece attended a public school that had "academies" within, for those that wanted additonal emphasis on STEM and the the Arts (two different programs, obviously).  

I'm not sure what the problem is in Alabama, other than the state government continues to cut education funds and in some areas, you don't have parents holding the schools to a standard.  

Name:	PTClakefan -	Reply
Subject:	There is a Utopia
Date:	6/12/2020 8:22:30 AM

And you would be wrong.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	There is a Utopia
Date:	6/12/2020 8:30:36 AM

Must be even worse, an adminsistrator.

The biggest problem in Education and Government are public sector unions.  Get rid of them and problems become solvable, but as long as you have unions demanding more while fighting to keep the mediocre and criminal employed at our expence nothing will change. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Actually it's not...but for a different reason
Date:	6/12/2020 9:00:46 AM

Sure there are plenty of very good public schools from an academic standpoint.  And there are lots of very bad ones from every standpoint.  But what all of them have in common is the liberal indoctrination, the phony U.S. history they teach and the PC nonsense.  They don't equip kids with critical thinking skills or basic logic and indoctrinate them in left wing emotional thinking.  And then those that go to college get the final indoctrination.

As for Alabama, you can be sure they get a better education here than they would at inner city schools that spend double what they do in Alabama.  It isn't about the amount of money they spend.  It's the culture.  

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Honor programs
Date:	6/12/2020 9:20:38 AM

Honor programs and classes within a school provide opportunities for the students who want to climb up out of the gutter, even in hood schools.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Honor programs
Date:	6/12/2020 5:58:11 PM

I agree.  My niece was in an honors program, in HS, and now she is in a Masters program for Occupational therapy.  I was in what was the forerunner of today's honor's programs.  I was in HS in the early 70s and I don't remember much indoctrination.  There were teachers who, no doubt, were liberal; but at the time there were also teachers that were member of the "moral majority".  Maybe teachers were tolerant of a more liberal view, but we had to justify what we thought and were taught to write cogent papers for and against, with supporting documentation.  

But I suspect things have changed.  Last year at my HS, two kids wore their Trump T-shirts on picture day and the year book teacher saw fit to edit out the words on the shirts.  The parents raised hell, the superintenant  allowed the teacher to skate, but the parents sued the school and got a cash settlement.  The superintendent then quit.