Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	? for hound & other lefties
Date:	9/16/2015 12:08:55 PM

Several of you expressed that the bakery that refused to make a gay wedding cake deserved the 130k fine. So tell me please, what should be the appropriate penalties for the fast food franchises that have refused to serve uniformed LEO's? Keep in mind that the bakery was a small mom and pop operation and the the others are large national franchises. 

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	? for hound & other lefties
Date:	9/16/2015 3:37:41 PM

I don't consider my self a "leftie", but I think that any restaurant that refuses to serve a law enforcement person or a military service person, should be permanently closed by the national chain and if there is a fanchise owner, they should be fined.    It it was a small business, I think they should be fined. 

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	? for hound & other lefties
Date:	9/16/2015 5:05:51 PM

I think it's pretty simple.   If you are open for business, then you are open to any customers that come in the door regardless of their race, creed, religion, hairstyle, or voting preferences.   Declining to serve someone based on the owner's religious beliefs has been dealt with before.... Many of us can still remember the signs around here that read "whites only", and how that ended.  

It is the same.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Another "lefty" checking in...
Date:	9/16/2015 5:24:46 PM (updated 9/16/2015 5:26:06 PM)

Ditto and Ditto...

Now how about a couple of answers for us lefties

1/   Do you think that if Kim Davis continues to refuse to do her job that she should be fired if there is a legal way to do so?

2/   Do you agree with the small airline that fired a Muslim flight attendant who refused to serve alcohol to passengers on religious grounds?

If you can answer yes to both we are in agreement.  If you answered NO to no. 1 and YES to no. 2, then in the immortal words of Ricky Ricardo "you got sum splainen to do!"

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Another "lefty" checking in...
Date:	9/16/2015 6:34:37 PM

No Kim Davis should not be fired. She has rights too! She has started a movement against the gaynazi agenda and others are jumping on board. Several here in Alabama. The ink wasn't dry on the flawed, IMO, SCOTUS ruling till the to us shifted to pushing transsexual rights agenda. If you can't see how the left is attempting to destroy the fabric of our society one issue at a time you need to take the blinders off.

As for the flight attendant, well let me explain what is going to happen. Just so happens my #2 sister has the same job at the same airline. We had a long conversation on this issue yesterday. She is a recent convert to the peaceful religion. The way it works is when the schedule is posted duties are assigned as to what particular tasks each will have. There are none that dont include beverage service. So when she started wearing tje head scarf she was out of uniform but the company made allowances and let her do it, a reasonable accomadation, although it made some passengers uncomfortable. With that victory she went on with the alcohol issue. When she refused to serve the other flight attendants had to cover her station which meant their station was NOT being served as she also refused to do other tasks to make sure customers were getting the service they deserved.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Another "lefty" checking in...
Date:	9/16/2015 7:42:45 PM (updated 9/16/2015 8:19:39 PM)

Your response pretty much says it all!!

Let me be sure that I have this straight...it is OK with you for a follower of the "forgiving" religion of CHRISTIANITY to break the laws of the nation in the name of religion when the "gaynazis" ask her to do the job that she swore to do and that the courts of the nation have instructed her to do, but it is not OK for a follower of the "peaceful" religion of ISLAM to break a rule of a private company?  I guess you are some kind of American but l'm not the you are the kind that Thomas Jefferson would invite to dinner.

Man oh man, if you are a typical "righty" then I will proudly ascribe to being a "lefty" and l think so would most Americans.

And finally...if Kim Davis is hell bent on leading a "movement" against the "gaynazis" that is fine with me, but let her do it on her own dime and time, not the taxpayers!!

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Archy wizard..
Date:	9/16/2015 8:36:39 PM

Did the founders of the United States of America use the Christian religion as the basis of the Constitution and government????

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Archy wizard..
Date:	9/16/2015 8:49:47 PM

NO. Thank God!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	From The Left
Date:	9/17/2015 12:37:06 AM

Southern Baptists will refuse to serve alcohol as will the mormon attendants. Mormons will also refuse to serve coffee except decaf and only soft drinks without caffeine. If they are serving pork in first class, the jews and muslims will refuse to serve the meals. Be a lot of running around to serve all the passengers.

When you buy groceries, there will be separate lines for pork, regular coffee, beer, smokes, regular Coke and Pepsi. The poor catholics and sinners among the protestants will be left with all the work except if someone bought condoms.

I respect Davis' for her religious views but don't agree with her and she shouldn't use it against citizens who are within the law. We can argue the merits of the law just as we can argue the merit of many laws. But, it is the law of this country. Laws to restrict gay marriage are no longer enforceable. There are consequences and if one is willing to accept them…..so be it. Jail, fines, loss of license… whatever. At least one believed to the end.

I say if you can't perform all the duties of you job…get another job. 

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Handle Like This
Date:	9/17/2015 12:50:48 AM

This is the way it should be handled......A Texas Whataburger employee was fired Wednesday for refusing to serve two police officers in what the company is describing as an appalling incident.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Further thought
Date:	9/17/2015 8:14:16 AM

After reading the responses, I thought some more about this. 

Since when did your personal beliefs interfere with doing the job you are being paid to do?   Do we now need to question the personal beliefs of everyone we come in contact with?  Does the cashier in the supermarket need to know my views on abortion before she can check out my groceries?  When the Charter guy comes out to fix my cable service, will he decide not to do his job because the person who called for help is gay?  If I go into a florist to buy flowers, will the clerk need to know if I am buying them for my gay lover or refuse to sell me the flowers because the florist is gay and I am straight?

It seems to me that all this talk about not serving others because of personal beliefs, not doing my job becasue it violates my personal beliefs is just more of the "it's all about me" that is so pervasive in our culture now.  We now impose our personal beliefs on others and require our employers to make extreme accomodations in the workplace, because we can't get over ourselves. 

In my view, your personal beliefs is how you live your life.  You don't approve of a gay lifestyle?  Then you don't live it.  You don't beleive in drinking alcohol?  Don't drink it.   Don't take a job where you will have to violate your hard held principles.  You don't want to wait on police, military, blacks, whites, zombie aliens - then don't take the job at the window - be the guy flipping burgers on the line.  It used to be when you took a job, you were expected to conform to the organization; not twist the organization so that it conforms to you.  Some of the most devout Christians I know, do not judge others.  They go about their lives, do their jobs and live their lives according to their beliefs, without imposing their beliefs on others. 

Guess I'm just tired of the "it's all about me".

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Preach it Hound!!! AMEN
Date:	9/17/2015 9:10:04 AM (updated 9/17/2015 9:41:43 AM)

A couple of years before the Leo Frank kangaroo case destroyed the good feelings between Jews and Christians in Atlanta, there was a dinner given by the religious community in honor of Rabbi Marx of the Temple (I think then Atlanta's only Jewish congregation) where the presiding Methodist Bishop praised the Rabbi as being "one of the best 'Christians' I have ever known". I doubt the good bishop could today say the same thing about Kim Davis.

I know a lot on non-Christians whose attitude toward their fellow human beings is a lot more "Christian" than some of the folks l know who love to point out they are Christian.  I is sort of summed up by a bumber sticker I saw once... "WWJD...Not sure, but I doubt he would bomb anybody!"

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Preach it Hound!!! AMEN
Date:	9/17/2015 9:31:25 AM

I have refrained from commenting on this... until now....but will simply say that as an elected official her responsibility is to uphold the law.  If her refusal is based on existing county or state law that hasn't been updated, then maybe she has a point.  But if her refusal is faith based, she is wrong.  She pledged to uphold the law, without reservation.  I would be willing to bet there was no language in her pledge saying "unless it violates my religious beliefs".

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for speaking up Mr H!
Date:	9/17/2015 9:48:06 AM

Understand, though, that my post says nothing about my views on "homosexual marriage", which I consider to be an oxymoron.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for speaking up Mr H!
Date:	9/17/2015 10:08:14 AM

And that is your right to hold that belief.  But, I have a feeling that if you were being paid to do a job and it involved dealing with a homosexual that happened to be married, it would not keep you from doing your job.  You might choose not to take a job that involved homosexuals, but if you took it, you'd do the job.  I have no problem with homosexual legal marriages, but I draw the line at homosexual couple adopting kids, or arranging for surrogates to have their kids.  I understand that they can legally do it, but I personally don't believe in it.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for speaking up Mr H!
Date:	9/17/2015 10:16:39 AM

Your observation is accurate.