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LifeTime Laker
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 10:05:34 AM
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Listening to Neal Boortz this morning I have heard that the level of lanier is going down this spring due to the water being sent downstream in order to save the habitat of some mullosk ( snail darter I think).
He is also ranting about Alabama needing to build our own lakes, that we should leave Geogia's alone, etc,etc.
Obviously he is VERY misimformed. If he only knew the truth it would set him free, but first it would make him MAD!!
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roswellric
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 10:07:43 AM
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Must have a place on Lanier.
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Osms
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 11:08:48 AM
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and you wonder why Alabama folk blame everything on you Georgians. He!!, you're drinking Lanier down. Boortz should check his rain gauge.
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roswellric
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 12:14:27 PM
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You missed it... I was amused that Boortz must have a place on Lanier and is looking for someone else to blame. Heck everyone knows that Lanier is Atlanta's toilet tank. :-)
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Osms
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 2:07:58 PM
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is more like your drinking fountain and your toilet tank. Got the point--I had just read your response to Smitty this AM on another thread. Gee, wonder why all those ATLans don't move to West Point Lake; could it be that they can't swim in their own ________.
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roswellric
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 2:30:50 PM
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Actually Lanier is a beautiful lake. It's just suffering from overload. In the late 80's the corps went on a park building spree and ignored warnings that overpopulation would result. Then no restrictions were put on boat sizes...naturally people want to be comfortable cruising a busier lake so the boats got bigger made bigger wakes causing the need for bigger boats... and you know the rest of the story.
Tha lake is actually clean too. I think some of the south lake discharges are slowly changing that though as Atlanta surrounds the lake.
The real villian in the water quality downstream is the City and Fulton county governments. They can't get their act together as to which cousin gets what contract to repair the sewer and water systems so they just dump the raw sewage and pay the EPA fines and tax us. Neat Huh? You would think the Feds would get "fed" up and stop this but it's politics. Now you know where the real blame should go....
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AnchorbayDon
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 5:14:06 PM
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It's my undestanding thet the sewage problem is so large that it is cheaper for Atlanta to pay the $1 million/per day fines than it is to fix the problem! That's a lot of sewage! (_ _ _ _) !
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Osms
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Lake Lanier
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6/8/2006 9:15:41 PM
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I've been on Lanier--nice big lake--has more cruisers than the FL panhandle, LA, and MS Gulf Coast combined. Lanier probably has no downstream flow south of the dam--they just suck it all out for ATL and then dump it back in the river as sewerage. That leads to my comment about West Point Lake.
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jeff r
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Lake Lanier
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6/13/2006 9:22:13 AM
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This article was written in today's Montgomery Advertiser. It concerns possible rewriting of the water use code
Editorial
'Water wars' intensify again
For going on two decades, Alabama has been engaged in disputes with Georgia and Florida over that most valuable of natural resources -- water. The tenor of the discussions has ranged from amicable to angry, in full recognition of the high stakes involved.
Now trust -- or its betrayal -- has surfaced as an issue in the long-running exchange among the states. At issue is the conduct of John Paul Woodley Jr., assistant secretary of the Army for civil works. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is a major player in the water distribution concerns at the center of the states' debate.
The Birmingham News reports that Alabama officials, including Gov. Bob Riley and U.S. Sens. Richard Shelby and Jeff Sessions, contend Woodley misled the state in saying that the Corps of Engineers would remain neutral in the dispute, then proceeding with plans to revise its water distribution regulations in ways that would harm Alabama. Woodley is seen as favoring the interests of Georgia in his actions.
This is far more than some tiresome bit of bureaucratic wrangling. The implications of the eventual decisions in the aptly named "water wars" are enormous.
Two important river basins, the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa and the Apalachicola-Chattahoochee-Flint, will be affected by the water allocation decisions. The challenge lies in balancing the water needs of metropolitan Atlanta and north Georgia with the downstream needs of Alabama and Florida. If the decisions were easy, they'd have been made long ago and would not remain unresolved more than 15 years after the issues were raised.
The Coosa and Tallapoosa rivers, which merge near Wetumpka to form the Alabama River, are hugely significant for our state. The Coosa, heavily impounded to form a string of lakes, including Lake Jordan, would face a tremendous impact if its flow is substantially reduced. The Tallapoosa, which feeds Lake Martin, one of the state's greatest economic and recreational assets, is also a leading source of drinking water.
The Chattahoochee, which forms part of Alabama's border with Georgia, has notable agricultural and transportation uses that could be severely compromised if its flow is significantly cut. In addition, the river flows into the Flint and then into the Apalachicola in Florida, which feeds into Apalachicola Bay, an area critical to that state's seafood industry.
There's a great deal at stake here and it is troubling to see Woodley propose an action that, at least in the view of Alabama officials, is a complete contradiction of an earlier pledge.
"They misled us on it. As a matter of fact, I think it was a straight lie," Shelby told the News. "I am disappointed. The whole delegation is."
That's pointed language from a senator not given to rash statements.
Sessions, who said he agreed with Shelby that the state had been misled, told the News that he had spoken with the secretary of the Army -- Woodley's superior -- and was told that rewriting the water distribution manual would be delayed. Secretary Francis Harvey "determined there is no legal requirement to rewrite this manual in the immediate future," Sessions said.
Assuming Harvey's assurance holds, there is another chance for mediation among the governors. That is much to be desired, as a legal battle could drag on for still more years with an uncertain outcome. Riley told the News he has urged Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to return to the negotiating table.
Alabamians -- Georgians and Floridians, too, for that matter -- should hope that's what happens next.
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URL: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060613/OPINION01/606120338/1006
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PC Al
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Lake Lanier
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6/13/2006 4:25:30 PM
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From today's B'ham News: U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal from Ala. & Fl. in dispute with Ga. over 11th U.S. circuit Court of Appeals ruling over water distribution from Lake Lanier and the Chattahoochee River. This decision allows Ga. to use more water from the two sources than earlier orders allowed. Hope Gov. Bob does some good with negociating for the Tallapoosa water basin because I hate to see it go to court. P.S. Has anyone noticed that with this dry spell and us being down .8 from full pool, but Lake Harris above us on the Tallapoosa is coming up and is now .2 below full pool. They seem to have a lot of influence on that lake from somewhere.
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