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Name:   Talullahhound The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0
Date:   9/28/2019 8:30:19 PM

I'm not quoting any fake complaint.  Guiliani met with the leadership of Ukraine prior to the phone call.  He leveraged the phone call by greasing the skids for the "favor".  The Ambassador Volker (the one that resigned) approached Guiliani to take the meeting at the behest of the Ukraine leadership.  They need the support of the USG.  And they met with Volker the day after the phone call to figure out how to navigate Trump's request for a favor.  The reason Trump is using Guiliani is so that the can always cite "client/atty" privlege.  

Don't be too quick to disparage the professionals at State, there are a lot of fine people that have spent their careers becoming experts in particular countries in a region.  Generally, they speak the language and know the players.  Voker was acting as part time special envoy unpaid and as a service to the country.  He was the Ambassador to NATO and spent his career on European affairs.  

I don't think Trump is going to be impeached and he will likely be re-elected, but I'm saying I don't like the way he is doing business.  It didn't bother me when he refused to punish Saudi for the death of the journalist, but this is leveraging national security for political points.  I spent too many years working Defense foreign sales and tech transfer to think this is anything but shameful. But that is just my opinion.  

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Who done it! - Carlson - 9/26/2019 2:57:25 PM
     Who done it! - phil - 9/26/2019 3:17:30 PM
     Who done it! - phil - 9/26/2019 3:58:55 PM
          Who done it! - GoneFishin - 9/26/2019 4:14:43 PM
               Who done it! - Carlson - 9/26/2019 4:29:25 PM
               Who done it! - phil - 9/26/2019 4:35:21 PM
                    Who done it! - GoneFishin - 9/26/2019 4:48:15 PM
                         Who done it! - phil - 9/26/2019 5:18:06 PM
     Who done it! - lucky67 - 9/26/2019 4:58:51 PM
          Call for a vote! - Carlson - 9/26/2019 5:52:20 PM
     Who done it! - Talullahhound - 9/26/2019 9:27:43 PM
          Finally, someone on the forum wakes up, - architect - 9/26/2019 10:55:18 PM
          Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MartiniMan - 9/28/2019 8:40:35 AM
               Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 9/28/2019 9:49:57 AM
                    Preach it Hound!! - architect - 9/28/2019 11:58:00 AM
                    Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MartiniMan - 9/28/2019 2:26:05 PM
                         Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 9/28/2019 8:30:19 PM
                              Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - phil - 9/30/2019 8:19:23 AM
                                   Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 9/30/2019 1:50:21 PM
                              Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MartiniMan - 9/30/2019 8:37:17 AM
                                   Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Carlson - 9/30/2019 8:41:35 AM
                                        Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MartiniMan - 9/30/2019 10:29:45 AM
                                             Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 9/30/2019 1:59:39 PM
                                                  Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MartiniMan - 9/30/2019 2:26:46 PM
                                                       Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 9/30/2019 9:48:37 PM
                                                            Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MartiniMan - 10/1/2019 8:44:43 AM
                                                                 Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 10/1/2019 3:02:41 PM
                                                                 Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - lucky67 - 10/1/2019 3:11:25 PM
                                                                      Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MrHodja - 10/1/2019 4:12:41 PM
                                                                           Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - lucky67 - 10/1/2019 4:17:46 PM
                                                                                Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - MrHodja - 10/1/2019 7:11:11 PM
                                                                                     Whistleblower Complaint is Steele Dossier 2.0 - Talullahhound - 10/1/2019 9:21:41 PM



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