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Name:   watertrip The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   watertrip failed
Date:   2/5/2008 10:23:27 AM

////////She hasn't provided any answers to the simple three question test. The facts concerning the first question appear in Section 11. In reading it you will find that there is a statement saying there will be no retroactivity. Surely that demonstrates that the proposed commission will not have, in her words, 'complete and total control over private land owners and residents'. /////////
So Im a farm owner and I have a heard of cows, barns, fencing, milk house etc. Now lets say 3 years later I want to sell my dairy farm? Can the new owner run a dairy farm too? Would the new owner be grandfathered in? What happens to the land values after the farm is sold if the farm is set up as a dairy farm, but may not be able to used as a dairy farm?
Another senerio, what if I want to open a market on my land, or a gas station or a mini mart and it conflicts with another market or gas station or mini mart already owned by one of the larger land owners who may be a part of the commission, would my business strategy be denied?
What if I want to divide my land and sell part of it?
What if I want to build a home for one of my children on my property?
What if my spring fed pond is used for irrigation purposes?
So maybe "total control" were the wrong words to use. Sorry for that usage. How about just the simple word "control"
There are so many things to think about besides zoning codes to make LM ascetically pleasing for weekenders.
These and so many more questions need to be answered before such a bill would take place. Again, I sure don't want to be blind sided by this and you really have to read the proposal many times over to see all the loop holes in this plan.

///////The facts concerning the second question appear in Section 5. Nowhere in Section 5 does it suggest that anyone will have a heavier tax burden because of the formation of the commission or the work of the commission members. Taxes might increase only if or when property valuations have risen. ///////

Did you read section 5b? The commission shall have the AUTHORITY to charge reasonable fee's for such services rendered by the commission to or for the benefit of any person or entity in the exercise of the responsibilities and duties of the commission under this act.
Ahhhhhhh???? Sounds like we will be charged individually (I call that taxing) for the surveying and plating of our private property? I had my property surveyed many years ago and it cost just over $1,000.

///////The fact concerning the third question is that the jurisdiction of the proposed commission doesn't come anywhere near New Site. /////////

Perhaps glasses are needed? I never said including Newsite, I said "up to" and if you look at the map thats exactly where it is drawn.

Lets focus on whats at hand not argue about such trival things. I'm as much in the dark as everyone else and I don't have any of the answers except to continue to educate ourselves on exactly how this will impact everyone. Hey, if it was something that as a whole would benifit all, I'd say go for it. Im open to hearing ALL the pro's and con's.

Carnac, Since you seem to know most about this bill and seem in support of it can you start a list of the Pro's?
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Lake Martin Planning Commissio - watertrip - 2/3/2008 9:46:07 AM
     Lake Martin Planning Commissio - Hawks Nest - 2/3/2008 9:58:55 AM
          Lake Martin Planning Commissio - watertrip - 2/3/2008 10:10:10 AM
               Told you so... - Pier Pressure - 2/3/2008 11:47:45 AM
                    Who knows at this point? - PC Al - 2/3/2008 12:00:04 PM
                         Who knows at this point? - watertrip - 2/3/2008 1:16:45 PM
                              Who knows at this point? - BayPineYankee - 2/3/2008 1:49:05 PM
                                   HOBO's help - Ron - 2/3/2008 2:19:05 PM
                                        I also hope the - Ulysses E. McGill - 2/3/2008 2:51:46 PM
     watertrip... - Osms - 2/3/2008 2:23:16 PM
          watertrip... - Osms - 2/3/2008 2:37:53 PM
               There you go - Ulysses E. McGill - 2/3/2008 2:54:08 PM
          watertrip... - watertrip - 2/3/2008 5:12:28 PM
               watertrip... - au67 - 2/3/2008 5:26:02 PM
               watertrip... - Osms - 2/3/2008 6:12:03 PM
                    watertrip... - watertrip - 2/4/2008 8:29:52 AM
          watertrip... - Smitty - 2/5/2008 8:57:12 AM
     Lake Martin Planning Commissio - Maverick - 2/3/2008 4:00:51 PM
     Sky is falling - Carnac - 2/3/2008 8:24:27 PM
          Sky is falling - watertrip - 2/3/2008 10:50:25 PM
               Sky is falling - Carnac - 2/3/2008 11:31:17 PM
                    Sky is falling - watertrip - 2/4/2008 8:26:38 AM
                         No insult intended - Carnac - 2/4/2008 8:02:23 PM
                              No insult intended - watertrip - 2/4/2008 8:25:00 PM
                                   Not authorized but - Carnac - 2/4/2008 9:14:40 PM
                                        Not authorized but - watertrip - 2/4/2008 10:38:38 PM
                                             watertrip failed - Carnac - 2/5/2008 9:30:41 AM
                                                  watertrip failed - watertrip - 2/5/2008 10:23:27 AM
                                                       watertrip failed - watertrip - 2/5/2008 10:32:41 AM
                                                       I do support it - Carnac - 2/5/2008 1:11:36 PM
                                                            I do support it - boataholic - 2/5/2008 2:00:24 PM
                                                            I do support it - watertrip - 2/5/2008 3:38:58 PM
                                                            I do support it - LifeTime Laker - 2/5/2008 4:45:10 PM
                                                                 I do support it - boataholic - 2/5/2008 5:19:23 PM
                                             Thanks - MartiniMan - 2/5/2008 10:13:12 AM
                                                  Thanks - watertrip - 2/5/2008 10:30:38 AM
                                        Not authorized but..explain - CAT BOAT - 2/5/2008 9:01:11 AM
                                             Quote from above post... - CAT BOAT - 2/5/2008 9:12:21 AM
                                                  My sentiments too CAT - LifeTime Laker - 2/5/2008 9:26:10 AM
               Actually - Ulysses E. McGill - 2/4/2008 12:10:51 AM
                    Actually - watertrip - 2/4/2008 8:28:24 AM
                         you have mail - Ulysses E. McGill - 2/4/2008 8:43:39 AM
                              you have mail - CAT BOAT - 2/4/2008 8:57:12 AM
               SEND ME A COPY WATERTRIP - Maverick - 2/4/2008 1:08:03 PM
     consensus - ecstasypoint - 2/4/2008 10:34:51 AM
          The best way..... - Osms - 2/4/2008 11:08:09 AM
               The best way..... - Osms - 2/4/2008 12:13:20 PM
                    How ironic..... - LifeTime Laker - 2/4/2008 5:16:34 PM
     Lake Martin Planning Commissio - Lady Delta - 2/4/2008 11:15:07 AM
          Lake Martin Planning Commissio - Ulysses E. McGill - 2/4/2008 12:13:04 PM
               I read it.... - CAT BOAT - 2/4/2008 3:36:49 PM
     Lake Martin Planning Commissio - watertrip - 2/4/2008 8:57:38 PM
          Lake Martin Planning Commissio - boataholic - 2/4/2008 10:57:45 PM
               Don't be surprised - CAT BOAT - 2/5/2008 9:03:43 AM
                    Don't be surprised - boataholic - 2/5/2008 10:08:54 AM
                         Don't be surprised - Council Roc Doc - 2/5/2008 10:14:25 AM
                              Council Roc Doc - DirtDiva - 2/5/2008 10:32:31 AM
                                   Council Roc Doc - Council Roc Doc - 2/5/2008 11:02:02 AM
                              Don't be surprised - boataholic - 2/5/2008 11:05:41 AM



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