Name:   MartiniMan - Subject:   Interesting discussion with son and friends Date:   7/20/2020 9:40:57 AM (updated 7/20/2020 9:45:21 AM)

Had a group of my son's friends who are in their upper 20's to low 30's at the lake this weekend.  Very eclectic group, lots of long hair and tatoos.  Range of races including Asian and African American.  I deliberately avoided discussion of politics, BLM, Wuhan virus but listened to them.  Some key takeaways.  They do not like President Trump at all.  They think he is un-presidential, don't like his personal tweets and think he is obnoxious.  But they had almost no problems with the results of his presidency and don't blame him for the Wuhan virus.  They think he's made lots of mistakes but they think the Governors and Mayors were no better.

By far the biggest surprise to me was they detest Biden more than Trump.  And they had nothing good to say about the Obama presidency.  They think BLM is a bunch of marxists that don't really care about the lives of black people and are just about politics.  Likewise they were disgusted with the behavior of some of the police but think defunding the police is madness.  They likewise detest Nancy Pelosi and to a person think AOC is an imbecile.

I never asked any of them who they were going to vote for but my strong guess is they will either sit out the election or hold their nose and vote for Trump.  Interestingly many of them really liked Andrew Yang.  I found that a bit discordant with their other views.  The African American young lady was particularly disgusted with Biden's comments about poor kids being as smart as white kids and if you don't vote for Biden you ain't black.  She is a massage therapist and works for a natural supplements store and recently moved from Seattle because of the madness there.

No intent to extend these observations beyond the fact that I was very surprised.  As a group they are socially liberal but economically moderate to conservative with a libertarian bent.  Very pro 2nd amendment as well.