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Subject:   Yes Mr H in 2019
Date:   8/1/2019 1:24:30 PM (updated 8/1/2019 1:48:13 PM)

I do feel the electoral college has outlived its purpose.  How can you make a reasonable argument that voters in the mid section of the country would not matter to the politicians if the politicians had to compete for every vote, not just the vote in the few swing states which make up 270 electoral votes?  How is any vote diluted if every vote counts?  Why is the vote of the people acceptable in every other elected office except 2.  How is going to a popular vote denying anything to anybody anywhere in America?  If every vote counts the same then a school teacher in  San Diago has the same voice and electoral say as an out of work coal miner in Mingo County, WV....how is that bad?   As it is now a Democrat in AL and a Republican in MA have absolutely no reason to even vote the presidential line on the ballot because they know their vote will in reality not even count toward determining the presidency...how is that good?

Think about this Mr. H,  you think electoral college is good for our representative democracy do you not?  Then how would you feel about going back to the "real" electoral college as envisioned by the framers which made no provision for popular vote for president at all...electors to decide the presidency were to be selected by the state legislatures.  Would you mind going back to that original expectation of the framers?  Of course with the way things are gerrymandered today I suspect you might have no problem at all.

Under the Electoral College it is still unlikely but entirely possible to see a day when a candidate could move into the Oval Office even if he or she was the preference of only a third of the citizens while their opponent was the preference of 2 thirds.  Is that OK?  Will that be acceptable for very long to the losing 2 thirds?  Would it be acceptable if those 2 thirds resorted to their "2nd amendment rights" to alter the situation?  Think about it...it really could happen! 

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Something else to consider....Mitch - architect - 7/30/2019 9:09:18 AM
     Something else to consider....Mitch - phil - 7/30/2019 10:55:54 AM
          Something else to consider....Mitch - Talullahhound - 7/30/2019 11:24:54 AM
               Something else to consider....Mitch - GoneFishin - 7/30/2019 11:40:09 AM
                    Something else to consider....Mitch - phil - 7/30/2019 12:08:02 PM
                         Something else to consider....Mitch - GoneFishin - 7/30/2019 12:28:29 PM
                              Something else to consider....Mitch - phil - 7/31/2019 10:30:21 AM
     Something else to consider....Mitch - Subrosa - 7/30/2019 1:01:57 PM
          Something else to consider....Mitch - architect - 7/30/2019 4:09:06 PM
               Something else to consider....Mitch - Carlson - 7/30/2019 6:21:45 PM
                    Something else to consider....Beyond Moscow Mitch - GoneFishin - 7/30/2019 6:48:22 PM
                         Something else to consider....Beyond Moscow Mitch - Carlson - 7/30/2019 7:19:58 PM
                         Something else to consider....Beyond Moscow Mitch - Subrosa - 7/31/2019 6:43:06 AM
                    We are the UNITED STATES - architect - 7/30/2019 10:55:07 PM
                         We are the UNITED STATES - Subrosa - 7/31/2019 6:52:28 AM
                              We are the UNITED STATES - architect - 7/31/2019 9:01:24 AM
                                   We are the UNITED STATES - Subrosa - 7/31/2019 2:48:37 PM
                                   We are the UNITED STATES - Subrosa - 7/31/2019 2:48:38 PM
                                   We are the UNITED STATES - MrHodja - 7/31/2019 6:10:25 PM
                                        Yes Mr H - architect - 7/31/2019 9:15:07 PM
                                             Yes Mr H - MrHodja - 7/31/2019 10:28:28 PM
                              We are the UNITED STATES - phil - 7/31/2019 10:35:09 AM
                                   We are the UNITED STATES - Subrosa - 7/31/2019 3:01:17 PM
                         We are the UNITED STATES - MrHodja - 7/31/2019 9:01:59 AM
                              How We Got Here! - Old Diver - 7/31/2019 9:44:26 AM
                                   Then you agree with Sir Winston? - architect - 7/31/2019 9:23:03 PM
                                        Then you agree with Sir Winston? - MrHodja - 7/31/2019 10:31:30 PM
                                             Mr H instead of sending me back to my civics text - architect - 8/1/2019 12:00:52 PM
                                                  Mr H instead of sending me back to my civics text - MrHodja - 8/1/2019 12:13:44 PM
                                                       Mr H instead of sending me back to my civics text - phil - 8/1/2019 12:57:36 PM
                                                       [Message deleted by author] - architect - 8/1/2019 1:08:01 PM
                                                       Yes Mr H in 2019 - architect - 8/1/2019 1:24:30 PM
                                                            Archie, maybe you have outlived - Carlson - 8/1/2019 7:51:02 PM



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