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	Name:	Yankee06
	Subject:	Healthcare
	Date:	8/10/2009 12:44:08 AM

Y'all are right --as a nation let's get serious about health care.
-However, I doubt this forum allows us the space or medium to discuss it. It's just too complex. We need a beer summit of "off Topic" pundits. Where should we meet?
-I'm not sure this is as much a health care problem , as it is a health insurance problem. I personally agree with Obama that every American should have good health insurance (I just don't believe illegal aliens should be included).
-HOwever, unlike Obama, I believe this insurance problem can be dealt with by a set of regulations on the industry that are enforced (there were sufficient regulations in place to prevent the financial collapse, but the government never enforced them). I do not believe we need the current proposed bill (HR 3200) with its wide breadth and depth which, instead of fixing the health insurance problem, changes the very nature of our health care system and of a good part of our economy, ...and adds loads of dem party pet programs that are too numerous to go into here.
-Right now, everyone who wants health care in America can get it. The problen is the low and middle class citizens with no or poor insurance sometimes have to go bankrupt to get it for really serious problems. Poor people have medicade to pay the bills; old people have medicare; lucky people have good insurance programs; other low and middle class elements have social security programs like SCHIP, survivors' benefits etc. That 45 million number, really comes down to 10-15 million that need help. I believe we can help them without what I consider to be all the trash in this bill.
-I'm all for social justice; I'm just not for calling it social justice when it's pork barreling or pandering for votes.
-I believe that the money needed can come from stopping the graft, corruption, and inefficiencies in the present systems, ...and adding about another $100 billioin dollars (no I'm not going to provide sources, rationale, or footnotes, --so don't ask :) )
-Where's the money coming from? $100 billion is better that $1 trillion; it's out there.
-So what's the solution? --hell, I don't know, but then again I'm not getting paid to know. However, it's a good bet that the solution is probably a combination of all teh things we've talked about above, plus some: tort reform, better regulating the insurance business, cutting down on the serious waste and fraud, etc.. However, I believe the solution should NOT include cuttin services to seniors, rationing for eveyone, or government mangement. I've spent 40 years working in our government agencies, and 25 of those years studing and monitoring the activities of socialist and communist governments. One lesson of those 40 years is: --society needs some government, but less is usually better than more.