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Name:   phil The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Phil
Date:   11/1/2019 9:29:25 AM

I get the whole idea of two wrongs do not make a right.

 

But, in your honest former government opinion.  Lets play Archibalds hypothetical game.

 

Lets assume the worst for a moment is 100% factual.

1. Obama told the CIA/FBI to find a way to tie Trump to Russians anyway they could to destroy him in the election

2. All "17 of the ICs" got right on it paying for and digging dirt from every foreign source they could get.

3. IRS/DOJ/FBI/CIA/XYZ/FISA was weaponized against Americans, spying on a rival campaign, attempted to force the canidate out before the election.

4. #3 above was continually used to harass and derail most agenda items and consumed the first term of a presidency and is being used to swing votes for the 2nd term.

5. That same administration that was weaponizing the agencies used foreign governments to spy on Americans, our presidential canidate and incoming president.

 

Now I am not going to claim that it is all true.  But just for fun, lets assume that it is mostly factual.  We are now 2016 election + 3 years and as of right now they got away with all of the above in the 2016 election,  What in you opinion is going to stop them from doing similar things in 2020 and even when Trump is out of office- doing this to the next person who is elected president?  What is going to stop politicans and unelected bureaucrats from deciding that they do not like this persons policies and personality so that they have no choice but to bring the full force of the intelligence community, FBI and CIA against someone.

What the Obama administration did to this president should never happen again.  If the investigaion into quid pro quo of the president that is currently going on in the Basement of Schift is enough to have him removed from office, at the least Joe Biden should not be allowed to run for President based on the video of him admitting to a quid pro quo.  

 

Nothing will change as long as long as it is DC "business as usual", change does not happen because one or two people woke up one day and decide that what they did was wrong and should never happen again.  

 

I am sorry, I believe that a someone who gets away with crimes or actions that they do often just makes them bolder in the future as they feel that they have got away with it for so long that they are untouchable.  They do not wake up one day and decide that they are  a bad person doing bad things and should start doing what is right.  They will continue to do bad things, and graduate to worse things over time because they keep getting away with it.

 

Keep in mind also that what has happened for around 4 years now could now be considered precedent.  Since no laws have been suggested, no rules have been changed, nothing other then investigate Trump for Russia connections in the 2016 election  we can assume that everyone is OK with what happened with 2016 foreign dirt.  We have not seen anyone on either side pass new rules/laws/resolutions/non-binding crap that would in any way condemn what happened in 2016 other then the Mueller inspection that focused 100% on Trump and his adminsitration.

 

But now that we have some people looking into the wizard behind the screens that put it all into motion to determine if it really was legal with the possiility that wrongdoing may actually have a punishment -All we hear is that what Trump is doing is wrong because it is different.  Well sorry, but if the above does turn out to be true, then different may be a good thing.  And at the worst maybe it will mean some laws/rules that actually change washington for the better and not the worse.  I keep saying it can not get much worse, but then they find some way to make me decide they can always find a way to go lower.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dems think they've hit the jackpot...not! - MartiniMan - 10/29/2019 9:41:03 PM
     Dems think they've hit the jackpot...not! - Talullahhound - 10/29/2019 10:26:30 PM
          Dems think they've hit the jackpot...not! - GoneFishin - 10/29/2019 11:11:12 PM
               MM comes across as exactly what he has become... - architect - 10/29/2019 11:20:08 PM
                    Nah.... - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 8:39:33 AM
               I knew you'd like their shiny new button - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 8:34:13 AM
          THANK YOU HOUND. - architect - 10/29/2019 11:46:43 PM
          We have the transcript - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 8:20:11 AM
               We have the transcript - phil - 10/30/2019 8:56:52 AM
                    We have the transcript - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 9:07:06 AM
                    We have the transcript - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 10:33:56 AM
                         We have the transcript - phil - 10/30/2019 4:26:50 PM
                              We have the transcript - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 5:58:37 PM
                                   We have the transcript - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 8:14:27 PM
                                        We have the transcript - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 10:38:39 AM
                                             We have the transcript - MrHodja - 10/31/2019 11:06:45 AM
                                   We have the transcript - phil - 10/31/2019 8:24:28 AM
                                        We have the transcript - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 10:11:26 AM
                                             We have the transcript - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 10:43:55 AM
                                        We have the transcript - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 10:43:08 AM
                                             We have the transcript - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 10:55:47 AM
               We have the transcript - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 10:27:24 AM
                    He was elected becasue he is irregular - Lifer - 10/30/2019 10:51:24 AM
                         He was elected becasue he is irregular - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 6:20:47 PM
                              He was elected becasue he is irregular - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 8:17:52 PM
                              He was elected becasue he is irregular - phil - 10/31/2019 8:39:34 AM
                                   Phil - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 10:50:34 AM
                                        Phil - phil - 10/31/2019 2:00:31 PM
                                             Phil - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 6:37:54 PM
                                                  Phil - phil - 11/1/2019 9:29:25 AM
                         He was elected becasue he is irregular - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 6:20:49 PM
                    We have the transcript - CRD - 10/30/2019 10:58:36 AM
                         The fat lady hasn’t yet sung - Carlson - 10/30/2019 1:27:46 PM
                              The fat lady hasn’t yet sung - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 3:15:48 PM
                         CRD you are blind - architect - 10/30/2019 9:17:47 PM
                              CRD you are blind - CRD - 10/31/2019 10:57:32 AM
                    Think about who you are believing - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 3:10:50 PM
                         I BELIEVE - GoneFishin - 10/30/2019 4:51:36 PM
                              Of course you do.... - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 5:05:01 PM
                         Think about who you are believing - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 6:30:14 PM
                              Think about who you are believing - CRD - 10/31/2019 11:04:08 AM
                         Think about who you are believing - Talullahhound - 10/30/2019 6:37:39 PM
                              No, you are hopeless - MartiniMan - 10/30/2019 8:09:31 PM
                                   ''MM, I'm sorry but you are hopeless.'' - architect - 10/30/2019 9:24:38 PM
                                        whistleblower - Carlson - 10/30/2019 9:53:51 PM
                                        Another govt school fail - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 9:06:09 AM
                                             Rev MM - architect - 10/31/2019 2:15:08 PM
                                                  Yet again you are unable to comprehend - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 2:24:20 PM
                                   MM - wix - 10/30/2019 10:31:33 PM
                                        MM - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 9:16:03 AM
                                             MM - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 11:37:37 AM
                                   No, you are hopeless - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 11:11:30 AM
                                        Know the feeling - Carlson - 10/31/2019 12:19:14 PM
                                             Kangaroos - MrHodja - 10/31/2019 12:51:08 PM
                                                  Kangaroos - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 6:55:55 PM
                                             Know the feeling - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 6:44:35 PM
                                        Nope, don't believe you have TDS - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 2:12:11 PM
                                             Nope, don't believe you have TDS - phil - 10/31/2019 2:17:35 PM
                                             Nope, don't believe you have TDS - Talullahhound - 10/31/2019 7:04:37 PM
                                                  Here are a few examples to ponder - MartiniMan - 10/31/2019 10:21:02 PM



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