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Name:   water_watcher The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   France
Date:   8/16/2009 7:24:40 PM

I am all for "giving Obama a chance" ... but not a free pass to totally turn our healthcare system upside down when it is not broken. I have said many times we all agree that fixes are needed ... but NOT a total overhaul.

As for France ... they voted in a socialist government, they did just vote back (I guess they did not like socialism that much) a democratic leader. Yes their small economy was formed on capitalism, but today they are much more a socialist nation.

80% the population of texas still is not the size of the US.

And no one is addressing the $50 -$100m salary for their doctors. Nurses in this country make more ... and deserve to. What they call a doctor and give a license to is not the same standard or qualifications as to what a doctor in the US requires. So are you saying we should just lower our standards and set similar pay scales so we can have enough doctors at those salaries? CBS pointed out that a doctor rides in an ambulance ... well who knows, I don't, but maybe what they call a doctor is not much more than a parametic in the US.

We are not talking about an idea that Obama has that if it does not work we just go back ... we are talking about a complete overhaul and government control of our healthcare and 1/3 of the GDP. IF APPROVED, there is no turning back if it does not work.

If our system was a total disaster, I would be first saying, well anything is better than what we have .... but it is not. You can get appointments when you want, have access to the best doctors in the world, the best research, the best medications that supply the world. Is their problems ... YES .... but lets address the problems and not throw the system out the window in the process.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 2:20:27 PM
     If you support the healthcare - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 4:33:35 PM
     If you support the healthcare - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 4:45:15 PM
          There is a bill - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:37:02 PM
               I have looked at it - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 9:23:33 PM
               There is a bill - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:44:30 PM
     If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 5:21:46 PM
          If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:50:51 PM
               WW Are you serious - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 7:54:08 PM
                    WW Are you serious - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:09:36 PM
               If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:15:00 PM
                    If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:16:28 PM
                         If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 11:52:56 PM
                              If you support the healthcare - Yankee06 - 8/16/2009 1:15:35 AM
                                   Good post - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:33:36 AM
                                        WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:40:11 AM
                                             WW - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:22:04 AM
                                                  WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:13:58 PM
                                                       sad, isn't it ... (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:22:21 PM
                                             WW .........socialist - Barneget - 8/16/2009 5:31:21 PM
                                   My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:35:26 AM
                                        It's not just a bill - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:28:20 AM
                                             Amen ... thank you! (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:30:43 AM
                                             And I - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:18:51 PM
                                        My Only Point is This - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:29:07 AM
                                             My Only Point is This - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:36:15 AM
                                                  Water Man - GoneFishin - 8/16/2009 1:28:13 PM
                                                       Water Man - architect - 8/16/2009 1:34:36 PM
                                                       Fishy - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 2:20:58 PM
                                             My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:28:49 PM
                                                  Please read ... - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:33:50 PM
                                                       France - architect - 8/16/2009 7:10:11 PM
                                                            And BTW WW - architect - 8/16/2009 7:18:12 PM
                                                                 I now give Obama credit - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:42:21 PM
                                                                 just so you know - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:48:47 PM
                                                            France - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:24:40 PM
                                                       $50 and $100m ? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 7:27:08 PM
                                                            $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:45:29 PM
                                                                 $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 8:14:54 PM
                                                                      and FYI - architect - 8/16/2009 8:25:54 PM
                                                                           and FYI further - architect - 8/16/2009 8:32:39 PM
                                                                                and FYI further - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:17:32 PM
                                                                           and FYI - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:14:57 PM
                                                                      $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:13:40 PM
                                                                           $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 9:41:27 PM
                                                                                you are so - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:57:30 PM
                                                                                     So I'm I to assume - architect - 8/16/2009 10:19:57 PM
                                                                                          So I'm I to assume - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:27:02 PM
                                                                                               DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 11:11:36 PM
                                                                                                    DEATH PANELS? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 11:17:35 PM
                                                                                                         DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:09:30 AM
                                                                                                         Also - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:14:16 AM
                                                                                                              Also - architect - 8/17/2009 9:03:22 AM



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