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Name:   GoneFishin The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   If you support the healthcare
Date:   8/15/2009 4:33:35 PM

1. Most physicians currently accept government programs. Yes, some will decide not to practice or enter medicine. However, private coverage will never disappear. Any government program will be for those unable to obtain private coverage. We do, however, have too many specialists. Most of the complaints about denied coverage from physicians is on HMO coverage. Do you think your parents would have coverage were it not for Medicare. You know medicare care will suffer initially as more are added to the ranks of those uninsured. I hope you are not suggesting to deny people coverage so they can just die and allow you to reap the benfits of access to insurance. First you say the government is going to establish to panel to determine who lives and dies and then you want to deny people coverage.

2. There will always be research for new drugs. Profits will be less but then why should the US pay the research cost and allow Canada under their medical system to negotiate lower prices???? The Veterans Admin currently negotiates for drugs and I have never read about a drug company refusing to do business with them.

3. “An estimated 50 million, or 42 percent, of the 120 million visits made in 2006 to U.S. hospital emergency departments were billed to the Medicaid and Medicare programs, according to a U.S. government report released 7/30/2009.

Uninsured patients were the most frequent users of hospital emergency departments.”

This tells us that a large majority of emergency visits were not private insurance insureds. The hospitals are currently subsidizing the uninsureds. The 50 million visits by medicaid and medicare are at government controlled payments. Bringing more under a government program will pay the hospital for the large number of uninsureds that are either paid for by higher premiums for you, government subsidy from taxes, or the hospital sucks it up. Those that can afford to pay are unfairly charged the highest charges by the hospital which just makes it that much more difficult to pay. Hospitals will love it.


Maybe, it is time for privare insurers to deliver on their promise of 1993 and make insurance affordabe and cover pre existing when the program is opened up. They are is a catch 22 that they will cover pre exisiting if all are covered. You don’t want everyone to be covered because it will slow down the delivery of health care. I don’t advocate a single payer program plan any more than you do. Private industry has to step up to the plate. Give us your solution?


Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 2:20:27 PM
     If you support the healthcare - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 4:33:35 PM
     If you support the healthcare - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 4:45:15 PM
          There is a bill - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:37:02 PM
               I have looked at it - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 9:23:33 PM
               There is a bill - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:44:30 PM
     If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 5:21:46 PM
          If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:50:51 PM
               WW Are you serious - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 7:54:08 PM
                    WW Are you serious - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:09:36 PM
               If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:15:00 PM
                    If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:16:28 PM
                         If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 11:52:56 PM
                              If you support the healthcare - Yankee06 - 8/16/2009 1:15:35 AM
                                   Good post - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:33:36 AM
                                        WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:40:11 AM
                                             WW - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:22:04 AM
                                                  WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:13:58 PM
                                                       sad, isn't it ... (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:22:21 PM
                                             WW .........socialist - Barneget - 8/16/2009 5:31:21 PM
                                   My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:35:26 AM
                                        It's not just a bill - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:28:20 AM
                                             Amen ... thank you! (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:30:43 AM
                                             And I - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:18:51 PM
                                        My Only Point is This - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:29:07 AM
                                             My Only Point is This - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:36:15 AM
                                                  Water Man - GoneFishin - 8/16/2009 1:28:13 PM
                                                       Water Man - architect - 8/16/2009 1:34:36 PM
                                                       Fishy - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 2:20:58 PM
                                             My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:28:49 PM
                                                  Please read ... - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:33:50 PM
                                                       France - architect - 8/16/2009 7:10:11 PM
                                                            And BTW WW - architect - 8/16/2009 7:18:12 PM
                                                                 I now give Obama credit - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:42:21 PM
                                                                 just so you know - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:48:47 PM
                                                            France - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:24:40 PM
                                                       $50 and $100m ? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 7:27:08 PM
                                                            $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:45:29 PM
                                                                 $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 8:14:54 PM
                                                                      and FYI - architect - 8/16/2009 8:25:54 PM
                                                                           and FYI further - architect - 8/16/2009 8:32:39 PM
                                                                                and FYI further - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:17:32 PM
                                                                           and FYI - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:14:57 PM
                                                                      $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:13:40 PM
                                                                           $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 9:41:27 PM
                                                                                you are so - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:57:30 PM
                                                                                     So I'm I to assume - architect - 8/16/2009 10:19:57 PM
                                                                                          So I'm I to assume - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:27:02 PM
                                                                                               DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 11:11:36 PM
                                                                                                    DEATH PANELS? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 11:17:35 PM
                                                                                                         DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:09:30 AM
                                                                                                         Also - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:14:16 AM
                                                                                                              Also - architect - 8/17/2009 9:03:22 AM



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