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Name:   GoneFishin The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Blame The Right For Obamacare
Date:   3/4/2016 12:52:14 AM

When Hillary proposed her healthplan in 1993, the Dems oppossed and  Conservatives supported a mandate requiring everyone to buy insurance.

When Obama proposed Obamacare, it was decided by the Dems to include the mandate to encourage support from the Conservatives. Suddenly, the right oppossed mandates. 

Too bad from 1993 till 2010, the Right did nothing to develope a health plan. Obama reacted to the lack of any action from the Right and Obamacare was passed. They only need to blame themselves for Obamacare for doing nothing during the time they contolled Congress and the 8 years of Bush. Shame on them.

The plan proposed by the Right to replace Obamacare is pushing to remove the barrier for an insurance company to sell across state lines. Insurance companies sell auto and homeowners across state lines by becoming licensed in each state and filing a policy in each state. The don't file an auto policy in one state and sell it across country. 

An insurance company has always been able to file a policy in any state and sell it. Many do not cause they have to negotiate charges with hospitals and develope a network of doctors. Unless they can send enough business to hospitals, , they will not receive good discounts off the standard fees. That is why smaller companies have never tried to expand nationwide. BC/BS has so much business in most states that they demand and receive high discounts. Higher discounts means lower claims and lower rates. Removing state lines is not a solution.

I have seen some hospital bills and the medicare payments. Here are 2 that I saw recently:

$59,000 bill from hospital. Medicare approved for payment $6,600 This was outpacient procedure.

$35,000 bill for 5 days. No surgery. Medicare paid $3,500. This bill as an example had 2 Cat Scans billed for a total of $19,000. I understand an outpatient Cat Scan would be around $800.

The hospitals have agreed up front to accept the Medicare schedule. Talk about a screwed up system. Maybe, a reason for a single payer system.

 

Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Blame The Right For Obamacare - GoneFishin - 3/4/2016 12:52:14 AM
     More left wing nut non-sense - MartiniMan - 3/4/2016 7:37:05 AM
          More RIGHT wing nut non-sense - GoneFishin - 3/4/2016 1:10:51 PM
               Asked and answered - MartiniMan - 3/4/2016 3:09:00 PM
                    Asked and answered - architect - 3/4/2016 6:58:01 PM
                         Go back and look Archie - MartiniMan - 3/5/2016 10:00:06 AM
                    Asked and answered WRONG - GoneFishin - 3/4/2016 7:25:51 PM
                         Reply to GF's reply to WIXIE-poo - architect - 3/5/2016 9:47:03 AM
                         Asked and answered WRONG - MartiniMan - 3/5/2016 10:05:10 AM
                              Asked and answered WRONG - GoneFishin - 3/5/2016 3:11:35 PM
                                   You aren't paying attention - MartiniMan - 3/5/2016 8:37:17 PM
                                        You aren't paying attention - GoneFishin - 3/5/2016 8:54:48 PM
                                             Asked and answered - MartiniMan - 3/7/2016 8:39:31 AM
                                   Where did MM go to college - architect - 3/6/2016 3:40:03 PM
                                        Wrong on all counts - MartiniMan - 3/7/2016 8:38:31 AM
     Blame The Right For Obamacare - lucky67 - 3/4/2016 7:46:28 AM
          Not the case - copperline - 3/4/2016 8:53:15 AM
               Not the case - architect - 3/4/2016 10:21:36 AM
                    Archidiot, I didn't know.... - wix - 3/4/2016 10:52:01 AM
     Goofbutt the Googler - wix - 3/4/2016 9:56:12 AM
          Goofbutt the Googler - GoneFishin - 3/4/2016 1:46:36 PM
               These guys just hate it - architect - 3/5/2016 9:36:52 AM



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