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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	Oh that one
	Date:	11/13/2012 11:57:33 AM

Yes, I am very familiar with that line of thinking and had already read the article. But Archie, help me out here. Why would we take advice from the guy who ran a failed moderate candidate's campaign when it comes to elections? I would not expect you to exactly run to the advice of Bob Shrum any more than I would to a guy that ran McCain's campaign.

But more to the point, I know the template of the govt media and the left is that Romney was seen as some sort of right wing fascist but that just isn't so. He actually got more of the Independent vote than Obama did. But Obama got the base out and with his identity politics and offering free stuff just like Santa Claus he was able to garner enough votes to win some key swing states. What it seems to me is being suggested, and correct me if you think I am missing the point, is that we try to outdo the Democrats when it comes to this strategy. It will never work. We can never outdo them with regard to single women's desire to replace the spouse they can't find with government programs (not to mention inanely buying into the fear mongering about abortion and contraception), blacks desire for the government to provide them with cash and free stuff because of the collapse of the family and their miserable personal choices when it comes to education, single motherhood, etc, hispanics wanting their free stuff and amnesty, etc. We simply cannot outdo Democrats in this regard and even if we tried it would only viciously accelerate our demise as a country.

I am of the opinion that what it will take is enough Americans that can be educated as to the disaster of big government, the unrealized expectations, etc. that are absolutely certain to occur because they always have and they always will. As to whether it is too late for America only time will tell.

Now I am sure I can expect your response to be along the lines of "go ahead an bury your head in the sand", etc. But I believe what I believe because I know based on logic, reason and historical fact that it is correct. I do not believe what I believe because of its potential for electoral success. That would make me an independent and I am not that, I am a conservative and I base what I believe on something other than emotion and whichever way the winds are blowing that particular day. In my opinion it is the left that is burying their heads in the sand as to the ruinous results of what they firmly believe. I am fighting the good fight and will continue to do so and leave the loser campaign managers to play their own fiddle.