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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Unemployment under Clinton
Date:   1/18/2013 9:03:29 AM (updated 1/18/2013 9:05:49 AM)

Archie, if you read my posts carefully, and I know you to be an ardent follower and for that I am humbled, you will see that I have often contrasted Clinton and Obama with respect to ideological or ambitious.  Obama is the former which has given us the pathetic results that only an affirmative action president could survive into a second term.  Now for a little history lesson because I know those govt schools you attended failed you miserably.

Clinton was the former and he had the great fortune of having a GOP-controlled House and Senate starting with the mid-term elections in his first term and continuing through the rest of his presidency.  He clearly understood that if he wanted to win a 2nd term it would hinge on working with Republicans to do things like welfare reform, etc.  But the fact is that Clinton, even when he was governor of Arkansas was very pro business.  To wit, Arkansas was probably 48th or 49th worst state with regard to environmental protection, was very pro business in both taxation and regulations, etc.

Now to Bush's presidency.  He likewise had the good fortune to have a GOP-controlled House and a Dem-controlled Senate that could be managed during his entire first term and the results were stellar despite having inherited a mild recession from Clinton (remember, that factoid came from CNN) and having to deal with 9/11.  When the economy started to crumble was after the mid-terms in his second term when Dems took control of the House and Senate. Unemployment went up, spending went up, deficits ballooned, etc.  See the correlation Archie, understand its significance, use logic and reason to come to the inescapable conclusions I do.....or continue to live in invincible ignorance.  I am OK either way.

As for my disdain of big business you do me an injustice.  My disdain is for crony capitalism and the use of lobbyists, etc. to achieve what they cannot in the open markets.  Its not that I blame them per se as this is the government we the people have given them and they do so in order to maximize profits.  But that doesn't mean I can't have disdain for the system that puts that much power in the hands of government.

As for the left's boogymen the Koch brothers, amazingly they are actually fighting against the very system I abhor and desire to promote smaller government, free markets, etc.  Visit the Cato Institute and you will see that they promote economic freedom and smaller government, not crony capitalism.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Bloomberg reports - architect - 1/17/2013 5:17:11 PM
     So what? - MartiniMan - 1/17/2013 9:46:02 PM
          Good points MM - architect - 1/17/2013 10:57:13 PM
               Unemployment under Clinton - MartiniMan - 1/18/2013 9:03:29 AM
                    Unemployment under Clinton - Scottie - 1/18/2013 10:48:19 AM
                    The bottom line - architect - 1/18/2013 10:51:12 AM
                         The bottom line - MrHodja - 1/18/2013 10:57:32 AM
                              Well Mr H - architect - 1/18/2013 5:21:16 PM
                                   Well Mr H - MrHodja - 1/18/2013 7:28:54 PM
                                        Well Mr H - architect - 1/19/2013 9:18:12 AM
                                             Well Mr H - MrHodja - 1/20/2013 12:28:34 AM
                         Mehh.... - MartiniMan - 1/18/2013 12:43:15 PM
                              Once again.... - Lifer - 1/18/2013 4:13:32 PM
                                   Once again....it is a fact - architect - 1/18/2013 5:16:40 PM
                                   Yep, he benefited from the internet boom - MartiniMan - 1/18/2013 6:55:50 PM
                                        The internet boom?? - architect - 1/19/2013 9:27:38 AM
                                             I was referring to Clinton of course - MartiniMan - 1/19/2013 2:07:10 PM
                                             Oh and isn't jobs created just one criteria? - MartiniMan - 1/19/2013 3:46:56 PM
                              Mehh....Blah,blah,blah - architect - 1/18/2013 5:35:03 PM
                                   Wow, that was a fact filled answer - MartiniMan - 1/18/2013 6:58:09 PM
                                        No facts claimed - architect - 1/19/2013 9:20:51 AM
                                             Sorry, but I rely on facts, logic and reason - MartiniMan - 1/19/2013 2:31:24 PM



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