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Name:   Yankee06 The author of this post is registered as a member
Subject:   Real Cost-Healthcare Non Bill
Date:   10/16/2009 9:01:06 PM

-The fact that the CBO and the senate is costing out a non-bill is troublesome, ...but that is not the worst of what is going on.
-The worst is that the public has been diverted from assessing teh various changes that will go into the final bill, because the final wording is being done in secret, --so much for Obama's promises of transparency and congressinal bill development discussions and debates on C-span

Here's what's going on:
-The republican politicians think their efforts have been a success if they prevent a public option which is just a government insurance plan.
-democrat politicians think it a success if they do get a public option, or a trigger for a public option. Remember the video where Barney Boy said that the public option is the first step to single payer?
--Concened citizens (dems, repubs, indys, and political atheists) think it a success if insurance reform is achieved and we all get transferability, pre-existing condiionts, catastrophic ceilings, etc.
-BUT...The socialists are happy if everyone is watching the outcomes of the public option and insurance reform issues, ...because that means the socialists have a good chance to retain in the new bill a lot of the original convoluted wording of HR 3200 which will really lead to government healthcare, --not just government-payed heath care (like medicare, medicaid, the public option, etc), but actual government-run heathcare. All the HR3200 wording of control of doctor pay, the "competitive effigency" panels, etc. has a good chance to remain in a bill that will AGAIN not be read by the majority of the congress before they vote and which will not be given to the public in time for it to be analized and reacted to.
-The press and the public should be clamoring for a two-week access to this final bill before it is voted on. Does anybody think that has a chance of happening? I don't. I hoped to be proved wrong!
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Real Cost-Healthcare Non Bill - MartiniMan - 10/16/2009 1:28:18 PM
     Real Cost-Healthcare Non Bill - Yankee06 - 10/16/2009 9:01:06 PM
     Who pays - MAJ USA RET - 10/17/2009 9:51:27 AM
          Who pays - Psycho - 10/17/2009 10:57:37 AM
               Who pays - MrHodja - 10/17/2009 11:42:58 AM
               Who pays - Yankee06 - 10/17/2009 12:13:21 PM
                    Who pays - Talullahhound - 10/17/2009 1:04:56 PM
                         Who pays - MAJ USA RET - 10/17/2009 1:32:57 PM
                              Who pays - water_watcher - 10/17/2009 2:09:45 PM
                                   Value of Service - MAJ USA RET - 10/17/2009 2:12:50 PM
                                        Healthcare costs - Yankee06 - 10/17/2009 3:47:35 PM
                                             Healthcare costs - Talullahhound - 10/17/2009 4:13:29 PM
                                                  Hound - water_watcher - 10/17/2009 6:33:22 PM
                                                       Hound - Talullahhound - 10/18/2009 8:24:14 AM
                                                            Hound - MAJ USA RET - 10/18/2009 9:14:23 AM
                                                                 Hound - Talullahhound - 10/18/2009 3:27:15 PM
                                                            Hound - MrHodja - 10/18/2009 5:15:54 PM
                                                                 Mr Hodja - GoneFishin - 10/18/2009 7:33:37 PM
                                                                      Mr Hodja - MrHodja - 10/18/2009 9:52:01 PM
                                                                      Mr Hodja - MrHodja - 10/18/2009 10:01:58 PM



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