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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Thoughts?
Date:   3/3/2011 10:36:13 PM

Hound's description of collective bargaining is accurate but what is missing is why government workers need to collectively bargain in the first place.  My view is that they don't and they should not.  The original concept with unions and collective bargaining was an individual worker had little recourse against the evil corporation that could take advantage of them to generate profits in excess of what would ordinarily be earned.  So they come together collectively to fight for fair wages, decent benefits and working conditions, etc.  However, none of that is necessary with employees working for government agencies as civil service rules and regulations already protect them from abuse.  As has been pointed out here before what we have is unions essentially at war with the taxpayers.  They use collective bargaining to extract ever more generous and fiscally unsustainable salary and benefits in collusion with politicians in exchange for campaign contributions and other spending to support their reelection to office.  It is money laundering pure and simple.

And the end result of years of government employee unions is that the former contract has been turned upside down.  Historically, working for the government paid less than the private sector but had slightly better benefits and more job security.  Nowadays, government workers earn more, have better benefits and better job security than those that pay their salaries.  Unions take their dues and spend hundreds of millions to elect Democrats that then give them more income and benefits, until federal, state and local governments are bankrupt.  We are like Greece in that regard and it is unsustainable and patently unfair to the average workers that has to pay for this ridiculous system of greed and avarice.  Government workers should not be allowed to form unions. 
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Thoughts? - lamont - 3/3/2011 9:00:57 AM
     Thoughts? - Talullahhound - 3/3/2011 10:13:21 AM
          Thoughts? - water_watcher - 3/3/2011 12:46:41 PM
          Thanks Hound - lamont - 3/3/2011 3:31:43 PM
          Thoughts? - alahusker - 3/3/2011 7:09:41 PM
     Thoughts? - muddauber - 3/3/2011 8:01:33 PM
          Thoughts? - alahusker - 3/3/2011 8:25:13 PM
               But - Talullahhound - 3/3/2011 9:54:55 PM
     Thoughts? - MartiniMan - 3/3/2011 10:36:13 PM
          Thoughts? - muddauber - 3/4/2011 6:44:52 AM
          Thoughts? - Talullahhound - 3/4/2011 7:33:32 AM
               Thoughts? - water_watcher - 3/4/2011 8:06:58 AM
                    Thoughts? - Talullahhound - 3/4/2011 8:16:06 AM
                         Intestinal fortitude? - alahusker - 3/4/2011 8:49:19 AM
                         Missed my point entirely - MartiniMan - 3/4/2011 10:21:22 AM
                         Hound, help me out ! - water_watcher - 3/4/2011 1:01:18 PM
                              Hound, help me out ! - Talullahhound - 3/4/2011 5:29:00 PM
                                   Hound, help me out ! - water_watcher - 3/4/2011 6:36:31 PM
                                   Facts are facts - MartiniMan - 3/4/2011 10:23:58 PM



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