Name:   water_watcher - Subject:   No core values? Date:   9/24/2010 7:37:06 AM

But do you think the current path is fixing those things?  

I guess you have to look and ask yourself, at least on the economic crisis, if lower taxes, less spending and allowing the private sector to create jobs is what caused the crisis?   Or was it it liberal beliefs that everyone should be able to get a home, whether they have the qualifications, down payment or can hold a job to pay in the future.   There were miostakes made on wallstreet that should not have happened .... but it was fueled by the demand for mortgages because of the policies put in place by the dems that started under Carter (CRA) and expanded under Clinton.  Fannie Mae and Freddie have been a cancer that no one was willing to treat .... and even with a 2,300 page financial regulation bill (that used to be 60 pages and worked for 80+ years) did not adress Fannie and Freddie or did it require a minimum down payment to purchase a home.   Both the republicans pushed for and the dems would not hear of such loony ideas.  Can you imagine how crazy it would be to require a down payment, or the federal government setting standards for mortgages they back or buy from banks and mortgage companies through fannie or Freddie?

As for the wars .... we probably will not agree ... but I also do not feel the approach Obama is taking is working or demonstrating leadership.

But the pledge is about the economy and getting people back to work ... and as MM said ... history has shown these approaches work and make the country stronger .... when the country is stronger it brings people together.  The divide you talk about is being created by Obama with his attacks on business and success.  Handouts and redistribution will never join a country, freedom and opportunity for all does. 

It is interesting that the dems run on the party for the working class ... but history shows that the poverty rate increases (as it is now) under democrat leadership and policy and unemployment is higher.   So how is that good for the working class?  It seems the dems are comfortable with this ... make more people rely on government so it keeps them in office.  Why bite the hand that is feeding you.  People in need, need a helping hand, not a hand out.

Obama and the strong democrat congress had a chance to show their policies can work.  They have not and there is no indication we are moving in the right direction.  the best that can be said is we are bouncing on the bottom with a slight upward trend.  There is nothing to say this will start to improve, in fact more say this pace will result in another down dip rather than a fueled up trend.  Bush also took over a recession from the tech bubble that burst, then 9/11 .... the republicans addressed these with policies that got the economy moving and people back to work.  That is what needs to be down again.

Many of us from day 1 said what Obama and the dems wanted to do would not work ... many challenged us.   It does not matter who was right or wrong ... i would have been happy to be wrong .... but the policies have not worked and before we have a total melt down and collapse of the economy and our society, it is time to stanp up, admit it has not worked and return to what we know will work.  Then we can get back to debating other issues.  But we can not have 10% unemployment, want to raise taxes and keep expanding government which means more taxes and more unemployment.