Name:   MrHodja - Subject:   Hodja? Date:   8/15/2022 8:35:57 AM

Well, let's see.

"Donald J. Trump stopped having ''access'' to most of the stuff retrieved from his abode as of 2:00 pm Jan 20 2021".

You can't state that as fact because frankly neither you nor I nor anyone else on this forum know what was taken. If tere was no such access, one wonders why the material wasn't taken during the previous FBI trips to the location/.

"At least one box of the stuff retrieved he had no right to remove from a safe room even while president much less take with him when he left the WH."

You don't seem to understand or accept that the President is the ultimate classification...and eclassification..authority, and Trump has stated that he declassified the documents in question.  As Hound points out, the documents may well have not been taken from the White House but brought to Mar-a-Lago during the president;s term of office and stored there for whatever reason.

"If he had it with him in Palm Beach it goes to reason he by definition had ''access'' to it even though he no longer had the right to such ''access'' unless he ''accessed'' it in the vaults of the U.S. Archives!"

Your "goes to reason" statement in itself makes your statement opinion rather than fact.

"He did not ''declassify'' any of the stuff he stole from the American people simply by decreeing after the fact to have done so."

You have no basis to make the claim (not fact) that he did not declassify the documents.  Your claim that he "stole" documents is preposterous. 

"Declassification is not a secret process.  It is done  by actually changing each document to so declare it has been declassified."

Administratively, declassified documents have classification markings struck through on the document and declassification information entered on the document itself.  That is an administrative methodology that doesn't affect whether the document(s) in question have been declassified.

 Archie, I know that you will do anything you can to paint as bad a picture of Donald J Trump as possible but you really do have a hard time separating fact from opinion.  And as to your deciding for yourself that I am a member of some Trump cult you are simply wrong.  Go ahead and continue that BS claim if it makes you feel better.  Does't make it true.