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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Many Who Oppose
Date:   8/21/2010 10:27:26 PM

I really don't get your point GF.  Why is it greedy to be concerned about scarcity?  It seems to me that is a genuine concern particularly given the experience in other countries with socialized medicine and this country with doctors that won't accept Medicare patients.  It is inarguable that socialized medicine leads to rationing as it has everywhere its been tried.

I agree that the issue of coverage of pre-existing conditions is a particularly vexing problem as is portability.  But it is clear that the promises that Obamacare would solve all these problems, reduce health care costs and reduce the deficit were out and out lies and those of us that opposed it from day one knew it.  The real question in my mind was why instead of tackling the problems like portability, pre-existing conditions and the ability to buy health insurance across state lines they went for what was and continues to be a very unpopular piece of legislation that a majority of Americans want repealed?  And they lied to get it passed as a permanent piece of legislation.  I would think you of all people would be outraged but you seem to be selective in your outrage.

Those of us who currently have insurance insurance are concerned about these issues and could support reasonable legislation to remedy them.  What we cannot support is a complete government takeover of 1/6th or our economy, especially when we look at the disastrous results of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Fannie, Freddie and on and on.  I seriously doubt you would mindlessly turn over your retirement funds to Bernie Madoff and yet you seem willing to turn over something as important as your health care the government.  Just doesn't make sense to me.
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Secret memo confirming lies about Obamacare - MartiniMan - 8/20/2010 9:23:06 AM
     Secret memo confirming lies about Obamacare - comrade - 8/20/2010 12:15:48 PM
          Secret memo confirming lies about Obamacare - comrade - 8/20/2010 2:11:15 PM
               Secret memo confirming lies about Obamacare - MAJ USA RET - 8/20/2010 2:50:24 PM
                    Interesting factoid - MartiniMan - 8/20/2010 3:29:32 PM
                         Interesting factoid - MrHodja - 8/20/2010 4:09:35 PM
                              Many Who Oppose - GoneFishin - 8/20/2010 4:46:45 PM
                                   Many Who Oppose - comrade - 8/20/2010 5:07:02 PM
                                   Many Who Oppose - Summer Lover - 8/20/2010 5:07:34 PM
                                   Total Cost of Obamacare - MAJ USA RET - 8/20/2010 5:21:56 PM
                                        Total Cost of Obamacare - comrade - 8/20/2010 6:17:11 PM
                                   Many Who Oppose - Barneget - 8/21/2010 10:23:35 AM
                                   Many Who Oppose - water_watcher - 8/21/2010 11:02:20 AM
                                        Many Who Oppose - MAJ USA RET - 8/21/2010 1:36:22 PM
                                             Many Who Oppose - water_watcher - 8/21/2010 5:16:50 PM
                                        Many Who Oppose - comrade - 8/21/2010 10:12:14 PM
                                             Many Who Oppose - comrade - 8/21/2010 10:20:23 PM
                                   Many Who Oppose - MartiniMan - 8/21/2010 10:27:26 PM



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